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gabbydeetoo

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Baby won't stop flying! Need advice!
« on: September 05, 2006, 10:28:06 PM »
Hello all. . .

New TAG "parronts" here--looking for some help. . .

Our baby Gabby is just over 3 mos. old and is a darling.  The only "problem" we have is slight:  Gabby won't stop flying!  She especially LOVES to "roost" or perch atop our heads.  She was fledged, so she does well in the air.  Her wings are clipped so she can't get too far. 

However. . .

She also likes to take off randomly to see what she can land on.  There have been numerous crashes against our sliding glass, mirrored closet doors.  I'm thinking she doesn't quite understand that it's a reflection she's seeing. . .

Help!  She won't stop and we're a bit worried that she'll end up with some nasty boo-boos!  Anything we can do to curb her desire to fly?  Is it the new-ness of the environment?  Will she grow bored after awhile?

Any thoughts appreciated!

Kellie and Susie

Lisa

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Re: Baby won't stop flying! Need advice!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2006, 02:10:21 PM »
hi kelly / susie

I would take her to an avian vet to check the wing clip - she should be able to land safely but not gain much height after a clip - the vet should be able to do this for you - yes it is dangerous for her to fly about indoors - she could brake her neck if she flies into something at high speed.
lisa

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Re: Baby won't stop flying! Need advice!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 03:27:19 PM »
Hi new TAG owners.
I have taught my birds not to leave the cage or play tree area with out me. Its a slow process but worth it in the end. I give my birds fly time (I call it) I ask do you want to have a fly or I also say  to fly. I began doing this after the loss of my beloved Lovebird that was always of the floor and well I stepped on her not knowing of course she was there (nothing like killing your own pet). I was prepared to teach the others (and myself) so this will never happen again or at least cut the chances down (15 years ago). I take my birds hold the feet and let them flap I bring them to different areas let them stop in between a few landings here and there (t-stand-bird tree-chair etc.) I do this when ever they are out of the cages using to fly or do you want to fly and they now ask for it, my male Grey (Gizmo) loved to just take off and I like you was worried  he would hurt himself or worse I would not see it happen and have a repeat. I noted signs of behavior just prior to his bolting off cage top and that is when I causually would walk over to him with a happy Hi and ask do you want to fly? then I took him for a fly, landed him back on the cage (repeat if nessasary/still excited), when I was not in reach of him, but still in sight I began using no flying away as a term to hang on and wait for me. I have been amazed at how quick  my birds picked this up. I tell you this is with not flaws as sometimes I find one of them on the floor although it does not happen very offen it does occationally (this also saved base board replacement/which had happened before). I am happy to say I always look before I walk now.
(and most of all like lisa said a proper wing trim)   
        Sandi 

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Re: Baby won't stop flying! Need advice!
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 06:12:11 PM »
Hi – I'm a n00b on this forum, so forgive me if I'm digging up ancient history.

Allowing your grey to sit on your head is not a good idea. In the parrot mind, altitude is power!

I have 3 of the little monst… errr… darlings  ;)  and they aren't always as harmonious as we would like them to be and they bicker from time to time. An altercation usually starts of with them trying to climb higher up the day stand than the competition. If you are higher, then you are in charge! It's the same with people. As a rule, when I'm trying to gain the trust of a nervous bird, I ensure that my eye level is the same as the bird's. That way, there is no sense of dominance. But when I'm disciplining a naughty bird, I always make sure that my eye level is higher than the birds.

But this is all about flying…

Now you're going to have to forgive me here, but I'm rabidly anti-clipping! Even you are are going to clip your bird, you shouldn't clip a bird younger than 18 months or so as it will hinder the development of the chest muscles. But as your litte TAG is only a baby, I'm asuming that she was clipped when you got her (in which case I'll get angry at the breeder/store you got her from and not at you  ;D).

But here's a novel approach to your problem: make sure that her immediate environment is safe so that she can't hurt herself – net curtains on the windows and flyscreens on the doors, for example – and then harness train her! When next she moults, don't clip her again. I have written a series of articles about harness training greys that can be found here.

Here's our 17-year old CAG hen, Ndhlovu doing what she loves most of all – flying!







The rewards of having a fully-flighted, harness-trained grey are unbelievable! The thrill of seeing Ndhlovu in the air is indescribable (which is why is am struggling to put it into words  ;))

Give it a try!

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Re: Baby won't stop flying! Need advice!
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2006, 02:22:05 AM »
To clip or not to clip?
First I compliment you on your wonderful photos, I love looking at fully flighted birds (even with rope tied around them)(haha). I hope that you will post many more photos. As a former  Bird judge (A.A.C.C.) I believe the bird looks at his best this way (complete), at one point you could not convince me to clip, my choice for clipping wings comes from learning from others and of course my own experiences. For starters many are not experienced enough with birds to even handle a fully flighted bird. I am assuming you have alot more experience then lets say the average bird owner. I now promote wing trims (yes I like them to learn to fly/yes its nice to let them grow out once in awhile), however in our homes (as that is were they are/not outside) they are better off clipped (for most people). The benifits are also endless (that words can not say). I also like the harness idea, I believe if one is outside with the clipped bird this is another safety device (as we know many clipped birds can still fly away). I also have many gripes on some of the clippings(butcher jobs) I have seen in my days, however I think over all  for the average parrot person wing clipping is very important, I also know many of breeders that do clippings before 18 months and these birds have gone on to be fantastic fliers.
more pictures please/very nice
   Sandi